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	<title>Comments on: My visit to DeerGrove Covenant Church</title>
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	<description>Mormonism, Evangelical Christianity &#38; More</description>
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		<title>By: CD-Host</title>
		<link>http://www.clobberblog.com/?p=2895&#038;cpage=1#comment-2820</link>
		<dc:creator>CD-Host</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ECC is liberal and often tied to the emerging church so...    They are also restorationist which I think is great and of course the LDS is restorationist.  So sounds good to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECC is liberal and often tied to the emerging church so&#8230;    They are also restorationist which I think is great and of course the LDS is restorationist.  So sounds good to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Football is nearly religion in parts of the US. Hence, the following weld of sport &amp; church:

http://www.bertc.com/subfour/truth/dropkick.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Football is nearly religion in parts of the US. Hence, the following weld of sport &amp; church:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bertc.com/subfour/truth/dropkick.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bertc.com/subfour/truth/dropkick.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Jack Meyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 &lt;strong&gt;Eric&lt;/strong&gt; ~ Your recommendation means a lot to me. Thanks for your input. 

#15 &lt;strong&gt;Mike H.&lt;/strong&gt; ~ Huh? I totally don&#039;t get it. But they did not have hymnbooks. Only songs projected on a screen. 

BTW, I&#039;m updating the post to point out that the sermonette preached by Margo B. is available online &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deergrove.org/podcast/Deergrove_Sermon_2009-08-23.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 <strong>Eric</strong> ~ Your recommendation means a lot to me. Thanks for your input. </p>
<p>#15 <strong>Mike H.</strong> ~ Huh? I totally don&#8217;t get it. But they did not have hymnbooks. Only songs projected on a screen. </p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m updating the post to point out that the sermonette preached by Margo B. is available online <a href="http://www.deergrove.org/podcast/Deergrove_Sermon_2009-08-23.mp3" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Unitarian and Universalist churches were separate entities that merged in 1961.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Valencic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Valencic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good friend of mine lives in Palatine. I should ask her what church she and her husband attend. Also had a good friend who lived in Palatine and attended the ward that met in Schaumburg, but he and his wife live in Chicago now.

Completely unrelated, I noted that the tree diagram shows Unitarianism and Universalism as separate, but I&#039;ve always known them to be linked. We did business with the local Unitarian Universalist Church here. Can anyone enlighten me in 100 words or less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend of mine lives in Palatine. I should ask her what church she and her husband attend. Also had a good friend who lived in Palatine and attended the ward that met in Schaumburg, but he and his wife live in Chicago now.</p>
<p>Completely unrelated, I noted that the tree diagram shows Unitarianism and Universalism as separate, but I&#8217;ve always known them to be linked. We did business with the local Unitarian Universalist Church here. Can anyone enlighten me in 100 words or less?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they have &quot;Drop Kick Me, Jesus&quot; in their Hymn book?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they have &#8220;Drop Kick Me, Jesus&#8221; in their Hymn book?  <img src='http://www.clobberblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hitchens on the conundrum of female religiosity &#124; Times &#38; Seasons, An Onymous Mormon Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hitchens on the conundrum of female religiosity &#124; Times &#38; Seasons, An Onymous Mormon Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Women&#8217;s religiosity &#8212; it&#8217;s because women care most about the kids, and their Mother Bear instincts are more willing to take Pascal&#8217;s Wager. It&#8217;s an interesting theory; though I don&#8217;t think it adequately explains why religious organizations are so male-dominated to begin with, or why the Mother Bears wouldn&#8217;t take their religious business elsewhere if and when competing, more egalitarian options became available (and why the market wouldn&#8217;t provide more such options). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Women&#8217;s religiosity &#8212; it&#8217;s because women care most about the kids, and their Mother Bear instincts are more willing to take Pascal&#8217;s Wager. It&#8217;s an interesting theory; though I don&#8217;t think it adequately explains why religious organizations are so male-dominated to begin with, or why the Mother Bears wouldn&#8217;t take their religious business elsewhere if and when competing, more egalitarian options became available (and why the market wouldn&#8217;t provide more such options). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in an evangelical denomination that was an offshoot of Methodism. Some of the similarities in both worship styles and theology with Mormonism are striking. Among them are that the church frequently (maybe once every couple months) had testimony meetings, and the LDS testimony meetings I now attend aren&#039;t all that much different in style than those I attended as a child.

Also, FWIW, the last evangelical church I attended during my lengthy conversion process to LDS Christianity was of the same denomination as the Deer Grove church. There were a lot of things about the denomination I liked. My guess is that the denomination would be a good fit for you -- while it&#039;s clearly evangelical, it doesn&#039;t expect its members to adhere to any rigid statement of faith and you&#039;re free to come to your own conclusions on a wide variety of issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in an evangelical denomination that was an offshoot of Methodism. Some of the similarities in both worship styles and theology with Mormonism are striking. Among them are that the church frequently (maybe once every couple months) had testimony meetings, and the LDS testimony meetings I now attend aren&#8217;t all that much different in style than those I attended as a child.</p>
<p>Also, FWIW, the last evangelical church I attended during my lengthy conversion process to LDS Christianity was of the same denomination as the Deer Grove church. There were a lot of things about the denomination I liked. My guess is that the denomination would be a good fit for you &#8212; while it&#8217;s clearly evangelical, it doesn&#8217;t expect its members to adhere to any rigid statement of faith and you&#8217;re free to come to your own conclusions on a wide variety of issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like this might be a good fit for you, Jack!  How fun!  Church shopping must be exciting.

&lt;i&gt;I confess: I have never attended an actual Methodist service.&lt;/i&gt;

Geez, even &lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve&lt;/i&gt; attended a Methodist service.  There was a female pastor and I really enjoyed it.  :)  Methodists are cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like this might be a good fit for you, Jack!  How fun!  Church shopping must be exciting.</p>
<p><i>I confess: I have never attended an actual Methodist service.</i></p>
<p>Geez, even <i>I&#8217;ve</i> attended a Methodist service.  There was a female pastor and I really enjoyed it.  <img src='http://www.clobberblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Methodists are cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I attend at the building in Schaumburg.

I think Willow Creek holds anti-cult classes or something.  But on the plus side, one of their ministries invited the missionaries (who asked me to come) to talk about the church.  It was sort of like an adult early morning seminary with about two dozen people in attendance, and lasted two hours early one Wednesday morning (they only meet once a week).  One of the elders gave an hour presentation on the Articles of Faith, and then I answered questions for an hour.  I had a good experience doing that.

But I don&#039;t really see you as a megachurch kinda gal...</description>
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<p>I think Willow Creek holds anti-cult classes or something.  But on the plus side, one of their ministries invited the missionaries (who asked me to come) to talk about the church.  It was sort of like an adult early morning seminary with about two dozen people in attendance, and lasted two hours early one Wednesday morning (they only meet once a week).  One of the elders gave an hour presentation on the Articles of Faith, and then I answered questions for an hour.  I had a good experience doing that.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t really see you as a megachurch kinda gal&#8230;</p>
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